Scandinavian and Polish MSX machines

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By Manuel

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08-01-2023, 11:14

Thanks but which MSX character is which Unicode symbol?

By elwro07

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08-01-2023, 22:00

I've got almost half of the Polish character set so far:
(a few of the Polish letters are duplicated for some reason)

0x00 0x0000 # NULL
0x01 0x263A # WHITE SMILING FACE
0x02 0x263B # BLACK SMILING FACE
0x03 0x2665 # BLACK HEART SUIT
0x04 0x2666 # BLACK DIAMOND SUIT
0x05 0x2663 # BLACK CLUB SUIT
0x06 0x2660 # BLACK SPADE SUIT
0x07 0x2022 # BULLET
0x08 0x25D8 # INVERSE BULLET
0x09 0x25CB # WHITE CIRCLE
0x0A 0x25D9 # INVERSE WHITE CIRCLE
0x0B 0x2642 # MALE SIGN
0x0C 0x2640 # FEMALE SIGN
0x0D 0x266A # EIGHTH NOTE
0x0E 0x266B # BEAMED EIGHTH NOTES
0x0F 0x01B5 # LATIN CAPITAL LETTER Z WITH STROKE
0x10 0x27CA # VERTICAL BAR WITH HORIZONTAL STROKE
0x11 0x2534 # BOX DRAWINGS LIGHT UP AND HORIZONTAL
0x12 0x252C # BOX DRAWINGS LIGHT DOWN AND HORIZONTAL
0x13 0x2524 # BOX DRAWINGS LIGHT VERTICAL AND LEFT
0x14 0x251C # BOX DRAWINGS LIGHT VERTICAL AND RIGHT
0x15 0x253C # BOX DRAWINGS LIGHT VERTICAL AND HORIZONTAL
0x16 0x2502 # BOX DRAWINGS LIGHT VERTICAL
0x17 0x2500 # BOX DRAWINGS LIGHT HORIZONTAL
0x18 0x250C # BOX DRAWINGS LIGHT DOWN AND RIGHT
0x19 0x2510 # BOX DRAWINGS LIGHT DOWN AND LEFT
0x1A 0x2514 # BOX DRAWINGS LIGHT UP AND RIGHT
0x1B 0x0143 # LATIN CAPITAL LETTER N WITH ACUTE
0x1C 0x0179 # LATIN CAPITAL LETTER Z WITH ACUTE
0x1D 0x2571 # BOX DRAWINGS LIGHT DIAGONAL UPPER RIGHT TO LOWER LEFT
0x1E 0x2572 # BOX DRAWINGS LIGHT DIAGONAL UPPER LEFT TO LOWER RIGHT
0x1F 0x1FBAF # BOX DRAWINGS LIGHT HORIZONTAL WITH VERTICAL STROKE
0x20 0x0020 # SPACE
0x21 0x0021 # EXCLAMATION MARK
0x22 0x0022 # QUOTATION MARK
0x23 0x0023 # NUMBER SIGN
0x24 0x0024 # DOLLAR SIGN
0x25 0x0025 # PERCENT SIGN
0x26 0x0026 # AMPERSAND
0x27 0x0027 # APOSTROPHE
0x28 0x0028 # LEFT PARENTHESIS
0x29 0x0029 # RIGHT PARENTHESIS
0x2A 0x002A # ASTERISK
0x2B 0x002B # PLUS SIGN
0x2C 0x002C # COMMA
0x2D 0x002D # HYPHEN-MINUS
0x2E 0x002E # FULL STOP
0x2F 0x002F # SOLIDUS
0x30 0x0030 # DIGIT ZERO
0x31 0x0031 # DIGIT ONE
0x32 0x0032 # DIGIT TWO
0x33 0x0033 # DIGIT THREE
0x34 0x0034 # DIGIT FOUR
0x35 0x0035 # DIGIT FIVE
0x36 0x0036 # DIGIT SIX
0x37 0x0037 # DIGIT SEVEN
0x38 0x0038 # DIGIT EIGHT
0x39 0x0039 # DIGIT NINE
0x3A 0x003A # COLON
0x3B 0x003B # SEMICOLON
0x3C 0x003C # LESS-THAN SIGN
0x3D 0x003D # EQUALS SIGN
0x3E 0x003E # GREATER-THAN SIGN
0x3F 0x003F # QUESTION MARK
0x40 0x0040 # COMMERCIAL AT
0x41 0x0041 # LATIN CAPITAL LETTER A
0x42 0x0042 # LATIN CAPITAL LETTER B
0x43 0x0043 # LATIN CAPITAL LETTER C
0x44 0x0044 # LATIN CAPITAL LETTER D
0x45 0x0045 # LATIN CAPITAL LETTER E
0x46 0x0046 # LATIN CAPITAL LETTER F
0x47 0x0047 # LATIN CAPITAL LETTER G
0x48 0x0048 # LATIN CAPITAL LETTER H
0x49 0x0049 # LATIN CAPITAL LETTER I
0x4A 0x004A # LATIN CAPITAL LETTER J
0x4B 0x004B # LATIN CAPITAL LETTER K
0x4C 0x004C # LATIN CAPITAL LETTER L
0x4D 0x004D # LATIN CAPITAL LETTER M
0x4E 0x004E # LATIN CAPITAL LETTER N
0x4F 0x004F # LATIN CAPITAL LETTER O
0x50 0x0050 # LATIN CAPITAL LETTER P
0x51 0x0051 # LATIN CAPITAL LETTER Q
0x52 0x0052 # LATIN CAPITAL LETTER R
0x53 0x0053 # LATIN CAPITAL LETTER S
0x54 0x0054 # LATIN CAPITAL LETTER T
0x55 0x0055 # LATIN CAPITAL LETTER U
0x56 0x0056 # LATIN CAPITAL LETTER V
0x57 0x0057 # LATIN CAPITAL LETTER W
0x58 0x0058 # LATIN CAPITAL LETTER X
0x59 0x0059 # LATIN CAPITAL LETTER Y
0x5A 0x005A # LATIN CAPITAL LETTER Z
0x5B 0x005B # LEFT SQUARE BRACKET
0x5C 0x005C # REVERSE SOLIDUS
0x5D 0x005D # RIGHT SQUARE BRACKET
0x5E 0x005E # CIRCUMFLEX ACCENT
0x5F 0x005F # LOW LINE
0x60 0x0060 # GRAVE ACCENT
0x61 0x0061 # LATIN SMALL LETTER A
0x62 0x0062 # LATIN SMALL LETTER B
0x63 0x0063 # LATIN SMALL LETTER C
0x64 0x0064 # LATIN SMALL LETTER D
0x65 0x0065 # LATIN SMALL LETTER E
0x66 0x0066 # LATIN SMALL LETTER F
0x67 0x0067 # LATIN SMALL LETTER G
0x68 0x0068 # LATIN SMALL LETTER H
0x69 0x0069 # LATIN SMALL LETTER I
0x6A 0x006A # LATIN SMALL LETTER J
0x6B 0x006B # LATIN SMALL LETTER K
0x6C 0x006C # LATIN SMALL LETTER L
0x6D 0x006D # LATIN SMALL LETTER M
0x6E 0x006E # LATIN SMALL LETTER N
0x6F 0x006F # LATIN SMALL LETTER O
0x70 0x0070 # LATIN SMALL LETTER P
0x71 0x0071 # LATIN SMALL LETTER Q
0x72 0x0072 # LATIN SMALL LETTER R
0x73 0x0073 # LATIN SMALL LETTER S
0x74 0x0074 # LATIN SMALL LETTER T
0x75 0x0075 # LATIN SMALL LETTER U
0x76 0x0076 # LATIN SMALL LETTER V
0x77 0x0077 # LATIN SMALL LETTER W
0x78 0x0078 # LATIN SMALL LETTER X
0x79 0x0079 # LATIN SMALL LETTER Y
0x7A 0x007A # LATIN SMALL LETTER Z
0x7B 0x007B # LEFT CURLY BRACKET
0x7C 0x00A6 # BROKEN BAR
0x7D 0x007D # RIGHT CURLY BRACKET
0x7E 0x007E # TILDE

By Pokun

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09-01-2023, 02:04

I'm Swedish but, as for the Danish/Norweigan variants of "Ä" and "Ö" the following seems to be right:
Æ: U+00C6 "Latin capital letter AE" (MSX: $92)
æ: U+00E6 "Latin small letter AE" (MSX: $91)
Ø: U+00D8 "Latin capital letter O with stroke" (MSX: $9D)
ø: U+00F8 "Latin small letter O with stroke" (MSX: $9B)
It looks like "Æ" is already in the international chara set though, only they have been made a little fater.
The "Ø" pair are the only new ones as far as I can see, replacing the characters on either side of the "£"-symbol.

Danish/Norweigan "Å" should be the same as the Swedish/Finnish one in the international chara set:
Å: U+00C5 "Latin capital letter A with ring above" (MSX: $8F)
å: U+00E5 "Latin small letter A with ring above" (MSX: $83)

By Manuel

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10-01-2023, 00:21

elwro07 - can you also help with the rest of the table? (2d half...)

By fragment

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10-01-2023, 19:24

Hey, I have both 728 and 738 with Swedish/Finnish keyboard and ROM. Dumped the ROMs and both are identical to the file found on the first page here:
https://download.file-hunter.com/System%20ROMs/machines/spectravideo/
svi-738_basic-bios1_se.rom

Interestingly the SVI-728 EPROM has a sticker on top: "FIN 1.1"

By Manuel

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10-01-2023, 20:02

Thanks, that's good to know. But can you give us the sha1sums of both ROMs that you dumped, to be 100% sure?

By fragment

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10-01-2023, 20:35

Sure:

87f4d0fa58cfe9cef818a3185df2735e6da6168c svi-738_basic-bios1_se.rom
87f4d0fa58cfe9cef818a3185df2735e6da6168c svi728-fin.bin
87f4d0fa58cfe9cef818a3185df2735e6da6168c svi738-fin.bin

By Manuel

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10-01-2023, 21:35

Thanks for confirming!

Now, I hope elwro07 can further assist with the character table for the Polish ROM.

By Manuel

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22-01-2023, 23:51

elwro07, please?

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